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Why Do We Sacrifice The Beautiful Ones?

Not weird per se, but it does make you wonder. I love that song title. I love the song itself.


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in our headlights, staring, bleak, beer cans, deer's eyes
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"Hiding deep within, doors cry opening..." in CYHM. I understand that the doors might be the ones hidden inside your heart. They can hurt you when you open them, letting your feeling show...

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DanceOfFlame wrote:
"Hiding deep within, doors cry opening..." in CYHM. I understand that the doors might be the ones hidden inside your heart. They can hurt you when you open them, letting your feeling show...


or it could be that there are parts of you deep inside (your heart) that want to be brought to light, crying to be opened and whats inside let out - like parts of you that you keep hidden from the world that want to be 'heard'

just my 2 cents...

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Feed the rain.
I'm not even sure what it really means. . .


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Maybe "feed the rain" means: make the rain appear, create the rain (ok it's a very personal explanation...)

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shits in byte size bits on youtube - Smoke and Mirrors

it was... unexpected :shock:

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to "feed the rain" is equivalent to "become the source of rain" or to turn into a raincloud.
why become a raincloud while "i'm thirsty for your love dancing underneath the skies of lust"?
because "without your love my life is nothing but a carnival of rust" one needs to douse that lust, to cool down in the rainwater and to rust the unshared feeling.
next, to dance in rain = to express one's carelessness, to defy troubles
further, in 3rd album we hear: "barefoot she dances in the rain" [might just be the same heroine portrayed in CoR, who knows!]
also, "i dance in tune with what i feel, to do adrenaline" [Passion colours everything]

bottom-line: A lusts for B, B doesn't share A's lust, A calls down the rain to cleanse from lust by obscuring the sky and by building a wall between B and A.

was that too weird?

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I see "feed the rain" in the way that he goes out mouth open aimed to the sky trying to drink the rain drops because of being thirsty for her love.... Because everything (the sky) is filled with mainly lust and it's hard to stop the thirst by drinking those love rain drops because it's just a mild drizzle or something..... Anyone else share the same view....? :roll:

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VesQ wrote:
I see "feed the rain" in the way that he goes out mouth open aimed to the sky trying to drink the rain drops because of being thirsty for her love.... Because everything (the sky) is filled with mainly lust and it's hard to stop the thirst by drinking those love rain drops because it's just a mild drizzle or something..... Anyone else share the same view....? :roll:


My view is almost the same. I see the rain as love itself, and the "feed the rain" is like asking the one you love to love you back , in other words you're "thirsty for -- love". The line "cos without your love my life ain't nothing but this carnival of rust" it's like if the one you love doesn't show their love to you, you just kind of wither away.

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Mandana wrote:
Snow wrote:
1.Swallowing the sun run another mile

2.it's overrated how we underrate

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and i also agree with yours :wink:


My take is that:
1) The sun can represent deterrents or obstacles on your journey. So all you need to do is swallow them, draw more energy from them, and keep running. Just don't stop.
2) We live in an exaggerating, 'beautiful is best' society. What I love about the Poets is that they've referenced this society in other songs, lines:
'It doesn't solve a thing it dress it, in a pretty gown.'
'Bloodhound and of no better pedigree than what you see so you could not offend.'
I particularly love the last line. Anyway, I digress.
My point is, we don't underrate things. We overrate. We always give too much credit where none is due. Example: the music industry! But it's said that we underrate a lot! This in itself is an overrating! Which makes it a really complicated, intertwined, awesome pun!

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Can anyone clarify me what the phrase "I'm out of cheeks to turn the other way" (The Ultimate Fling) means? Is "cheeks" used here as "impudence" or something like that?

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It's a reference to "turning the other cheek" (from the Bible), i.e. a non-violent approach (when someone hits you on one cheek, you turn the other to get hit again)
The person talking in TUF is out of cheeks, i.e. has eiher already "turned the other cheek" or is unwilling to do so. You can only "turn the other cheek" once, after that, you are out of options, unlesss you want to repeat what you have already done. Hope this helps.

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redbossfan wrote:
It's a reference to "turning the other cheek" (from the Bible), i.e. a non-violent approach (when someone hits you on one cheek, you turn the other to get hit again)
The person talking in TUF is out of cheeks, i.e. has eiher already "turned the other cheek" or is unwilling to do so. You can only "turn the other cheek" once, after that, you are out of options, unlesss you want to repeat what you have already done. Hope this helps.


Yes, this helped me. Thank you!

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Good evening everyone.
Help me please with this one. For me, this is the most weird.


A stone will not need you to guess if, you're still going to drown

Why stone? What does it mean? How can a stone guess anyway? Where is the connection between the stone and the drowning? English is not my native language, so maybe i just don't understand something that is clear to others.


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I'm thinking this might be another Biblical reference, like this one:

Matthew 18:6 But if anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a large millstone hung around his neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.

Now, let's see...if you tied a millstone around your neck and jumped in the water, would you drown? Can you guess?

I hope that makes sense. :oops: :P

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A stone will not need you to guess if, you're still going to drown
I think it makes more sense with the previous phrase:
"It doesn't solve a thing to dress it in a pretty gown
A stone will not need you to guess if
You're still going to drown"

Now, even if you put a pretty dress around a stone (i.e: you deceive yourself it is something else), it doesn't change the fact that it is indeed a stone, and it will drag you down and make you drown.

In the song there is this concept that you must try to see things for what they really are, don't let yourself be fooled by appearances, and don't fool yourself either

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stone/drown and solve/dress are totally different subjects.

"doesn't solve a thing to dress it in a pretty gown" is really self-explanatory if you replace "thing" with "problem". problems aren't solved by burying under decoration.
next one is simple too, stone won't need you to guess = stone drowns, no guessing needed at all.

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apollooo wrote:
in our headlights, staring, bleak, beer cans, deer's eyes
from late goodbye

I always thought this line sounded odd, everything else about the song is absolutely fine i mean it's the song that got me hooked on the band but that one opening lyric i dunno it never sat right with me at all, not sure if it was just the delivery of it or what.

It's not that i can't sort of understand lyric though or at least how i have interpreted the line like to me i get the description that if you were sitting in a car or truck and outside in the glow of your headlights (like how the music video sort of shows) is a deer but you have to look past the all the beer cans on your dashboard of your miserable life or path of depression and sorrow to see the deer's eyes, in other words the innocence.

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apollooo wrote:
in our headlights, staring, bleak, beer cans, deer's eyes
from late goodbye

I always loved this little enumeration.


"And so I came across the medicine man, and he showed me what I'd forlorn
For if I'm stayed it happens by my own hand, and my own voice full of scorn"
Roses

Eh? :?

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"A big, fat, wet slab of red..."

ahahaha... :lol:

oH, YES I AGREE ;)

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Sily wrote:
emeraldincantations wrote:
"A big, fat, wet slab of red..."

ahahaha... :lol:

oH, YES I AGREE ;)

Just happened to think that it could be a reference to fresh ink on paper. It's still slightly moist for being just printed and the tabloid headlines are usually in big, fat red (sometimes yellow) letters on the front cover.


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I just read through this topic and am quite glad I'm not alone with my thoughts:D
The Poets' lyrics are always beautiful and very touching, but one really has to admit they sometimes don't make sense:D
But I really like this one from More:

Yeah decency, she done left our home
On her rollerskates, so I guess she's pretty far gone

Such a nice personification:)

Broken phrases, distorted faces
Misunderstanding standing in between
These stolen moments hijack my love
Miss Understanding grinning through her teeth

Could anybody explain to me why there's misunderstanding in one line and two lines below its a person called "Miss Understanding"? Do you think she's got anything to do with "Miss Impossible"?

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