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So what's "more" in the longer version?

Solo? Crying (tears of joy of course)? Beatbox?

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@MelancholiaOfDawn Olli's hour long jazz solo... Nah, just kidding, it's not quite that long. The intro is longer and there's a short instrumental part in the middle of the song. The ending is a little bit longer too (a short instrumental fade out outro there).


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Temple of Thought sounds more... like: it's not a temple for the thoughts, it's the temple for the Thought, the act of thinking itself.

Yep, that's what I was thinking too. I like the title "Temple of Thought" more than I would "Temple of Thoughts" (with different meanings both), was just wondering why they were going for the actual title (using the singular). :)

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is it web-only single? i have a bad habit of buying physical CDs :)

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Dark Side of Light wrote:
@MelancholiaOfDawn Olli's hour long jazz solo...


Finally we know why it too two weeks to record the guitars for one song :D

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is it web-only single? i have a bad habit of buying physical CDs :)

Never say never, but at least the current plan is to make it a download only. We'll see...

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What a about the German single then? Download ony, physival CD, radio release?
Inquiring minds want to know.

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@redbossfan, I think I tweeted about it to Poets, jokingly, when they tweeted about Olli's guitars for one song taking 2 weeks to record. It has kind of stuck with me, they tweeted about this in last April. I found the tweet, here it is:
"We want to try new things all the time, so we decided to make a jazz album next. The highlight will be Olli's 30-minute improvised solo!"
Looks like my memory wanted it to be twice as long as they tweeted it would be. :P

@Admin, thanks for the info. Hmm, we fans seem to be a handful these days, asking so many questions everywhere! :)


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^^ I rememberd theit tweet about the jazz solo right when I read you mentioning the it in reply to mel. ;)
Seems it stuck with me too.

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redbossfan wrote:
What a about the German single then? Download ony, physival CD, radio release?
Inquiring minds want to know.

That's an easy one - I have no idea. :) But I'm sure more info will be available when the time comes...

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:D Thank you Admin - it's always good to know what you don't know ;)
Sorry for being impatient, I'm sure we'll hear from Remote music soon.

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Just bought both. Flac quality of the Full Version it's so much better than the one i recorded from the radio ^^

Too bad we wont have the chance to buy it physically :P

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And fcourse I don't know my Username and Password :roll: Typical! Even Equal Dreams can't give me my username xD LOL

Same here :D I just created a new account....
uh, it did not ask me for an account: I just bought the song and downloaded it right away :?

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The second I heard this single I thought, "Finally, a PotF track for my ridiculous high voice to sing!" Plus I think it will go nicely on mah new 12 sting. :P Time to get working it out heh.

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First, I discovered the lyrics of Cradled in Love, I fell in love with them right away ♥ they touched my heart so strongly... they gave me that feeling of warm safety that only true love gives... And then I heard the song :roll:

This song could bring peace to the most tormented soul...

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I bought my download and I can't stop listening, it's even more beautiful somehow...

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Lisa wrote:
uh, it did not ask me for an account: I just bought the song and downloaded it right away :?

It doesn't ask for it, you can download without an account if you like. You can, however, create one. With my very unreliable internet connection, I find it safer. I remember only too well what happened with Rochard soundtrack which I downloaded without logging in to my account (it was a close call, I had just downloaded all the songs but not the leaflet with Captain's message when my connection went down and that was the end of downloading). And in case you lose the song from your computer for whatever reason, it's still going to be there for download (5 times altogther) at your own Equal Dreams account library.

P.S. By the way, this was the first time ever that I "bothered" to download the FLAC as well and listen to it (thanks for egging me on Porthos13!) and my my, it indeed sounds quite a bit better. ^^


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Now that I've heard Cradled in Love in the best possible quality I have to say my opinion hasn't changed. I can appreciate how masterfully it has been made and I like it, but - as dEVil_inside put it on Twitter "It just does not pull the right strings". *shrugs*.
I like the long version better than the radio edit.

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This song hits home when you read the lyrics along with the music, it's heart melting!


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And fcourse I don't know my Username and Password :roll: Typical! Even Equal Dreams can't give me my username xD LOL

hmmm, once i also forgot my password and username, but i wrote a note to Equal Dreams team, and they gave me my details back... i get the song and now i can't stop to listen it loong time... <3


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@redbossfan,
regarding yours "Something about the lyrics/ content of the song that occured to me this morning":
I like your trilogy, even though I didn't think to a connection between Heal My Wound and Cradled in Love, but I agree with meaning you gave to the first one.
On the contrary, I felt immediately the connection with No End, No Beginning, but I can't find the "positive end" in this song, as you do. I mean, indeed the song is about a relationship stuck in a difficult period that the character wants to overcome. Feels like the character doesn't want to lose this love, but he's not intentioned to go on that way. For me No End, No Beginning is a desperate last love's cry/call, where the character let his beloved one make the last choice: "So breathe your life in my shades of grey, or kill the lights and we'll fade away"; let's rekindle our relationship, or break it... once and for all. And "cos if there's no end, there can be no beginning" has a double meaning, for me: to close this difficult moment and to give a new start to the relationship, but also to close it forever and to begin a new life's period.
About Cradled in Love: I don't read sadness or melancholy into lyrics, honestly, when I read someone felt them, I thought I was missing something in lyrics... I absolutely see the "positive sense" of the song; first I felt a so pure and intense declaration of love, a strong , deep, conscious/mature love. But that "don't cry for your love" and most of the verbs in the past form... why? There was something clashing, somehow... Then it sounded to me like

@Lisa said " I realized it might be about a love (of any kind) that ends, still leaves you something inside, and you learn to look at all the love and the good things that still surrounds you."

Someone who has been so lucky to live such a huge love, that has come to an end, though, but that will live forever inside this person, who is so gratefull for all the beautiful things this love gave him, which will belong to him forever. A love that made him stronger and capable to see the beauty around him...
And @Lisa, you still said "Yet it sounds too 'positive' for an ending love.": for an ending love, yes.. but for an already ended love, it might fit...

But, then, I thought of that "you're right there", so again sounds like a "still being in love"... but there's that "there" not a "here", which would sound more plausible for a present, then "you're right there" might be referring to a feeling lasting inside...
Anyway! Both version fit as well and whatever it is, it doesn't change what Cradled in Love makes me feel...

@Dark Side of Light,
" "I kept the love you gave me alive, and now I carry it with me"
That's just so true. We always carry the feelings we have or have had for people we love or have loved inside us." : indeed... :)

Agreed also with yours "the song sounds exactly like what falling in love, being in love and having been in love feel like.".

Again, "Many people seem to find this melancholy, poignant and a little sad, but I find the overtone to be hopeful and content with a touch of tranquility and acceptance.": I just love it! :)

@Porthos13,
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You really hit the spot. Thank you for sharing your feelings with me. I'm never so good to put my feelings into words." : thank you, sweet sis! You know I love to share my feelings with you... And you're good in doing it as well as I do, even better, I bet... :wink:

"For me many Poets songs have a bit of sadness, but at some point I always sense hope and happiness. Tranquility and acceptance! Yeah, that's it!": the same here! :)

I really liked your " thoughts about the cover", mostly:
"Actually for me it has the message that in all of us is something good and something bad and somehow the NENB line came into my mind: "It's like you can't, can't kill the monster that feeds on you".
The title "Temple of Thought" fits perfectly too because all the good and bad thinking happens in this Temple (body). We keep there our secrets and it's a place to hide and feel safe, sorting all kind of things out before going public.", AGREED! :)

"but I still had the feeling that I can't see all of it. And than I had to laugh about myself. I really thought that when holding the picture in my hands that I could grab the card and can look at it not only from this point of view but also right upon it.... turning it around etc. Yeah! For me the picture has become three-dimensional. Silly me!": that's really good! :lol:

"he got much more muscles than a year ago. I guess some work in the gym. Was he so successful? I really can't tell - might be photochop and I hope that the horns are not real :lol: " OH YESSS! :P

P.S.: @Porthos13, what you wrote in "tiny"... are you sure about?... :wink:

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Thank you for our well thought out reply to my trilogy theory. :)As I said, this is my point of view and how I feel about these songs.

Your interpretation of No End, No Beginning works just fine if you are assuming the entire song is referring to the same two people. I fully understand what you are saying.
To me, however, there is a change before the last verse. "I feel your touch alight a wild desire..." to me represents the start of something new, it's the beginning of love when everything is new and exciting and passionate. Then, you can interpret the last lines in the same context and then it's a call for help (give me new life with this new love, since I am still weak from the love I have lost) as well as the hope for making this new love something permanent instead of letting it fade away.
That is the feel I get from the song. I know that the lyrics can be viewed otherwise too and I never before tried explaning my feelings with lines from the song so thank you for giving me the chance to do just that. :)

As for "Cradled in Love": I can't see melancholy or sadness in the lyrics either, but the music, despite the happy overtones, carries a lot of melancholy for me. And that's exactly why the song does not work for me: objectively there is no sadness, but I feel it, so my feelings doen't fit with what I think they should be.

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I'm not used to put my songs' meanings in written words, just something I usually keep inside me, so it's me thanking you for giving me the input to do it. :)
Now, about the meaning you give to No End, No beginning:
I must confess it's the same I gave first times I hear the song, actually I "lived" the song exactly that way, that's just the reason why No End, No beginning is so important for me and I can say evenly she's my favourite Poets' song ever, but it scared me quite a lot, somehow... so I preferred to keep this version inside and consider my last one more "plausible". But now that you gave me a so clear explanation of what you meant... I have a problem, guess...
Anyway, I'm glad someone else got the same meaning I did first, so thank you for this, too. :)

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^^I find that all their songs have many layers and many meanings. That's one of the many wonderful things about them. And if a song appeals to you on a personal level, who cares if anyone else shares the same view? I don't see any problem with two (or more) different explanations. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion here. Thanks for sharing. :)

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Agreed, indeed! :)
My being scared referring to the correspondence between the last part of the lyrics and my "personal situation", just to make it clear :wink:
And it's a pleasure for me sharing with you all, just wish I had more time for that...

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EVERYTHING IS POTF'S NEW SINGLE AND NOTHING HURTS!!! ;( *tears of joy* <333333

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My being scared referring to the correspondence between the last part of the lyrics and my "personal situation", just to make it clear :wink:


Oh, don't worry, I understood. Many of the songs I can relate to on a very personal level :)

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Can someone answer this? On the chorus of the song, and in other parts, where it sounds like more than one person singing, are all voices Markos or is someone else harmonizing with him?
It all sounds like Marko to me.
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@Tobyanca It's always Marko, in all the songs, doing the harmonies :)
And yeah, the harmonies in Cradled in Love are brilliant!

Also, Marko's behind some funny sounds in some songs, such as around 1:34 in Carnival of Rust, the background "babbling" that no one can make out at the end of 15 Min Flame and some other sound tricks. :)

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Thanks for the response DSOL, and I agree, the harmonies are brilliant and beautiful.

I will check those other links out as well :)

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