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[quote="wlodi"]I think it would be nice to merge some of this thread with [i]"Downloaders"[/i] as it's totally off-topic...

But continuing the discussion- I think the funniest thing about it is that you people even dare to admit on the official forums of a band that you have downloaded their album and didn't pay for it. This is kind of hilarious.[/quote]

Well if people don't want people to download music they should find a way to stop it. But I am allowed to have an opnion too. But this topic was supposed to be about the lyrics so.


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[quote="CanadianPoetsLover"][quote="wlodi"]I think it would be nice to merge some of this thread with [i]"Downloaders"[/i] as it's totally off-topic...

But continuing the discussion- I think the funniest thing about it is that you people even dare to admit on the official forums of a band that you have downloaded their album and didn't pay for it. This is kind of hilarious.[/quote]

Well if people don't want people to download music they should find a way to stop it. But I am allowed to have an opnion too. But this topic was supposed to be about the lyrics so.[/quote]

Also im here to talk about talk about potf not to argue with ppl


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CanadianPoetsLover wrote:
Well if people don't want people to download music they should find a way to stop it.

That's a joke, right?
I mean: Major labels haven't found a way to effectively stopping illegal downloads yet, so how should an independent band do this?
Any means that could do as much as slow down piracy would also bring difficulties to the people who actually buy the music. This is not in any band's interest and most of these means can be bypassed pretty easily anyways.
The only foolproof way to stop people from downlooading music you made would be to stop making music. Does that sound like a good idea to you?


Another thing: There's an Edit- Button above of your posts, so you can edit posts you already wrote. No need to quote yourself for doing so.


To everyone else: I'm sorry for going on with the Off-Topic talk

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[quote="Marvin"][quote="CanadianPoetsLover"]Well if people don't want people to download music they should find a way to stop it.[/quote]
That's a joke, right?
I mean: Major labels haven't found a way to effectively stopping illegal downloads yet, so how should an independent band do this?
Any means that could do as much as slow down piracy would also bring difficulties to the people who actually buy the music. This is not in any band's interest and most of these means can be bypassed pretty easily anyways.
The only foolproof way to stop people from downlooading music you made would be to stop making music. Does that sound like a good idea to you?[/quote]

No but all you guys do is complain about it and get mad at ppl because they have downloaded it for some reason or another and like the other comments people made on the downloads post I agree with them so just leave it at that.


And just because some people download music it doesnt mean they aren't true fans and I think thats alittle unfair.


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Hey, check it out. For once, I'm the guy on-topic.

So, I just spent like an hour and a half doing some extensive doctoring to the lyrics booklet... and this is what I came up with. I present my modified lyrics sheet, to match what Marko is saying.

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Yeah, Decency, she done left our home
On her rollerskates
So I guess she's pretty far gone.
Left me with my greed
To answer for my own,
For how could a deadened sense
Tell right from wrong?

So thanks for nothing, I ain't feeling the magic
Kinda comic how I got tragic
Mirror, Mirror, on the wall,
What do you give someone who has it all?

More, just to be sure--
I got what I wanted so naturally, I want more,
What I paid for; entertain me now,
All I want is more, 'cause I like it
Too good to let it go, keep it coming
'Cause I want more 'cause I'm not sure
What I really wanted, suffice to say I want more

Yeah, Modesty, her rule now overthrown,
Packed her teddybear, so as not to go alone
Left me with my pride to live beneath a stone
For how could an amputee ever pick a bone?

So tell me something: isn't this a bit drastic?
My smile is turning to plastic
Mirror, Mirror, on the wall
What's the secret for staying droll?

More...

You know it isn't particularly funny;
Killjoy, he walks in just when it's turning sunny
Killjoy, he lives like it's all about the money
It's all about the money, it's all about the money
It's all about the money, It's all about the money.

More...

The Ultimate Fling

Today
It's in the air again,
Today another incident that just went off.
No way, this time I will not take the blame,
It's pretty obvious who needs to shut up.
Ashtrays filled with the fruits of our transgressions,
Here and there sarcasm overflows.
Do stay, I'll need the sitcom to be rerun
'Till I get the gist of just how it goes.
So what would you have me do?

Give me a reason, come on now, make my day,
'Cause I'm out of cheeks to turn the other way.
Ask yourself just how lucky do you feel?

Somehow I've been blindsided by my own
Kindhearted notion of just who we are.
No doubt we'd have collided anyway
With me indicted and you raising alarm.
First round, I'll take my bows into my corner,
Take my vows, regroup and run back again.
Bloodhound, and of no better pedigree
Than what you see, so you could not offend.

Did I act like a fool 'cause I didn't know what to do when you gave me just a little bit more than I bargained for,
A little too much in my hands when my hands are tied?
It's The Ultimate Fling to go frolicking, licking the muck from the soles of the boots of your pride,
Every time you lied...

Give me a reason, come on now, make my day,
'Cause I'm out of cheeks to turn the other way.
Ask yourself just how lucky do you feel?

Give me a reason, come on now, make my day,
Spoken my pleas, now someone's gotta pay.
Ask yourself just how lucky do you feel?

Gimme a reason
Yeah, make my day,
'Cause someone's gotta pay.

Can you gimme a reason, I'm moving into gray
Something I can hold on at the end of the day?
'Cause I can't move on 'till I know, what's the deal?

Give me a reason...



Revolution Roulette

If this machine doesn't stop
What will you do if it never goes out,
Never goes out of season?
It never stops as it turns...
There ain't no passion, yet it burns,
Introducing my prison.
Losing myself in this place...
Soon I'm gone without a trace,
Freed with that final incision.
Look, my heart, it's a bird;
It needs to sing and to be heard
Not this clockwork precision.

And The Machine grows idiotic;
Who's gonna be it's ingenious critic?

Everybody loves the perfect solution,
To beat the odds
Against the poorest possible substitution.
What you see is never what you're gonna get...
Everybody's playing Revolution Roulette.

Leaves you no arguments to trade;
You can try the key or you can wait,
But the lock will not open.
So you're left with sanity to lose
'Cause the machine is a ruse,
Another invention to rule them..
It's like a fistful of snake eyes,
A hand grenade with bye byes,
Like a million spent on nothing.
Look...
It's kinda like a pick in their lock,
When you never went knock knock.
"Hello, anybody home? I'm coming in..."
With a touch of foreboding.

And the machine grows parasitic;
Who's gonna critisize the good critic?

Everybody loves...

Everybody has the perfect solution,
But it's just hard to resist the sweet seduction.
There ain't no trick to winning double what you bet...
Welcome to Revolution Roulette.

Everybody loves...



Psychosis

Well, it's a different man in your face
And so out of place,
That you can see anything there that you wish...
Kiss my bliss...
It's like I'm a welcoming freakshow doormat,
Held in awe while growing fat in the head...
This is where we all should see red;
A big fat wet slab of red.

And I see that it makes me anti-everything...
And I see that it makes me want to shed my skin, shed my skin...

Revelation leading to my psychosis and inspiration.
Digest another hallucination, psychosis by recreation,
Happy till the next deterioration.
Psychosis...

For you it's a different notion of music and motion,
A dance of lights,
A prosaic ocean,
A delicate nearly transparent creation of somebody's
Soul on the screen has caught you in between
Of somebody's life on the stage, and somebodys life on
The frontpage, and this is where we all should see red,
A big fat laughing mouth of red!

And I see that it makes me anti-everything...
And I see that it makes me want to shed my skin, shed my skin...

I think I'm gonna start my own religion...
Seems to be the recipe for a new sensation.
Think it's gonna make a trendy revolution,
Quite the contribution to the unnatural selection...



Fragile

You've been biting bullets all these years, I know,
There beside yourself choking on tears,
And you aced avoiding possibility
When you placed your bets on bittersweet.

Now, don't you worry,
No need to be sorry,
Time to step lightly...

'Cause the love you used to feel is still there, inside;
It may be a faded photograph, but I know you care
So don't hide.
If you're scared I'm here beside you,
If you get lost I'm here to guide you,
And I'll give you peace when peace is fragile.
Love is all the good in you,
Love is peace when peace is fragile.

You've been going out of way to agree,
And you've been rubbing yourself all wrong
Just to be somebody elses genie.
Catering to your disaster's every need,
Waiting to finally be set free.

I said baby don't worry,
Life will carry,
Just take it slowly.

'Cause the love...



Clevermind

Looking at the road that rises up ahead,
I thought I'd learned a thing or two...
But this is where it's all made new, and I--
I gotta throw my hands up
'Cause I can't go on if I can't stop.

Look,
The leaves are dead...
The moments gone, there's no surrender;
Forever now unsaid,
The words that might have warmed December.
It's all inside your head,
Like fragments of a dream you remember,
So never mind your clever mind, never mind me.

Staring at the ceiling from my bed,
I thought I'd earned a chance or few...
I thought I'd be paid in due
Time isn't made for waiting,
And past isn't worth debating.

Look,
The leaves are dead...

Feeling like a fool again...
Just need a new direction,
A new beginning, new beginning...
I can't hold back and I can't hold on,
It's all about gratification;
See me running, see me running...

Look,
The leaves are dead...



Miss Impossible

She can see about four satellites
Every minute of the hour,
And find a four leaf clover
Where you never saw a flower.
She's habitually paradoxical, a Parallel Perpendicular.

Barefoot in nightgowns, that's how she dances in the rain;
Sundown to Sundown, like she was washing away her pain...

As she is beatiful, she's unpredictable;
Damned irresistible, is it plausible to hate her?
She is my common sense, revels on decadence,
But what's the difference? It's impossible to bait her.

She can really be a handful,
Like the brownies that she bakes you...
It can be a tad hysterical,
But never quite the breakthrough;
She's some kind of an epitome, the sea of intranquility.

In flimsy nightgowns, barefoot she dances in the rain;
Sundown to Sundown, like she was washing away her pain...

As she is beatiful, she's unpredictable,
Damned irresistible, is it plausible to hate her?
She is my common sense, revels on decadence,
But what's the difference? It's an impossible debate.

As she is beautiful...

Barefoot in nightgowns, that's how she dances in the rain;
Sundown to Sundown, like she was washing away her pain...
In flimsy nightgowns, barefoot she dances in the rain;
Sundown to Sundown, like she was washing away her pain...

As she is beautiful...



Diamonds for Tears

In these days of manmade wonders,
We still bicker over flies...
When you come seeking for forgiveness
I'll be forced to choose my side.
If I deny you what you're searching,
Do I do it out of fear?
Am I ruling out my reason,
Killing that which I hold dear?

Out of my way, I'm running with an excuse just underway;
Reality's so daunting, and I've got no way to explain.

'Cause when you're sleeping right next to me,
I know you're the one...
So when I hear you calling my name
Why do I turn away and run?
I guess that's why it's raining diamonds,
Sweet happiness in tears.
Crying Heaven, shed your diamonds,
Diamonds for tears.

In the light of recent findings,
There's no greater taint than grace,
But to relinquish all our bindings,
Always finds us out of place.
If I rested here a while more,
Would you hold me to your heart?
If I knew what it was meant for,
Would I know to play my part?

Out of my way, I'm leaving;
Another excuse before I'll stay.
Reality's applauding;
I know I don't know the right way.

'Cause when you're sleeping right next to me,
I know you're the one...
So when I hear you calling my name,
I know you're the one.
I guess that's why it's raining diamonds,
Sweet happiness in tears.
Crying Heaven, shed your diamonds,
Diamonds for tears.

Is it a lost cause?
Can we overlook this taint?
Are these dead laws
Like a doubt eating the saint?

And though I fear these shackles
Like my darkness closing in,
I will hold out my hands, I will hold out my hands...

'Cause when you're sleeping right next to me,
I know you're the one...
So when I hear you calling my name,
I know the good I've done.
I guess that's why it's raining diamonds,
Sweet happiness in tears.
Crying Heaven, shed your diamonds,
Diamonds for tears.



Passion Colors Everything

This is my toothpaste moment.
Oh, I'll need to flash a smile.
I'll be the super-absorbent-man,
Watch them flock to me in single file.
And I'll need to do it with style,
I need to keep me up to date...
Swallowing the sun, run another mile,
It's overrated how we underrate.

I dance in tune with what I fear
To do adrenaline;
Completely rapt with what I hear,
When passion colors everything...
The songs I sing from way out there to deep within,
The face I wear behind my grin,
The price I pay for my original sin,
Everything, everything, everything...

I have a mind for simple things,
But things are not of mind to simplify;
There's always some loophole technicality...
You buy into and pay until you die.
And money doesn't bring me joy,
It's more a darling dead weight,
And I seem to have lost my appetite,
It's underrated how we overrate.

I dance entangled with my dear,
She pulls my every string.
Completely trapped yet never here,
When passion colors everything...

And when I'm finally brought to my senses
(Let the old things die within...)
Parade the rain on my parade
(Why won't you let me claim my love?)
Before I'm back to my defenses
(I delight in waiting here...)
To watch the whole thing escalade.



Save Me

Gotta get a hold of myself...
I see them gathering around
And they need me to do their will.

It's like I'm standing again
On the same window-sill...
Am I happy on the pill?

If I wanna be the man
Should I open my wrist again?
Would that make it excellent, yeah...
If I wanna be the one,
Should I book me an interview
To get me an audition?

Save me,
I'm my own worst enemy,
Running headlong to the wall 'cause I want my freebie.
Save me,
You're the only out I see
And I need your love the most when I least deserve it.

Gotta get a shot of something
Before I'll enter the ring...
Gimme just a minute, just a minute...

Did I really ask for all this?
Did I really cut open the goose
Just to lose what's in it?

If I wanna be the man
Should I open my wrist again
To find the way in?
Yeah, if I wanna be the one
I'll need to get me that interview
To get that audition.
Save me...

That's myself in the mirror...
Funny I should see only headlines and ads to my name.
I was told I'd see my ally;
Who are these skeletons with guns taking aim?

Save me, Save me...
Save me, Save me...



Where Do We Draw The Line

On your palm an endless wonder,
The lines that speak the truth without a sound;
In your eyes awaits the tireless hunger,
Already looks for prey to run down.

So why do we keep up this charade?
How do we tell apart the time to leave from the time to wait?

What does tomorrow want from me?
What does it matter what I see?
If it can't be my design,
Tell me, where do we draw the line?
Tell me, where do we draw the line?

The dance of flames and shadows in the street
Make poetry nobody's ever heard.
The weight of loneliness stands on your feet,
The cage already there around the bird.

So why don't we join the masquerade
Before it falls apart, before our love become insatiate?

What does tomorrow want from me?
What does it matter what I see?
If I can't choose my own design,
Tell me, where do we draw the line?

What does tomorrow want from me?
What does it matter what I see?
If we all walk behind the blind,
Tell me, where do we draw the line?
Tell me, where do we draw the line?

Where's the cooling wind, where's the evergreen field?
Where's my mother's open arms, where's my father Lionheart?
It's like the sun's gone down, sleeps in the hallowed ground now
With the autumn's browns leaves, with the one who never grieves.

So why do we keep up this charade?
How do we tell apart the time to leave from the time to wait?

What does tomorrow want from me?
What does it matter what I see?
If it can't be my design,
Tell me, where do we draw the line?

What ever tomorrow wants from me,
At least I'm here, at least I'm free,
Free to choose, to see the sign...
This is my line.

The only thing I can't understand is that last word in WDWDTL. Besides that, I think I've got it mostly correct.
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should it not be "killjoy" in MORE, not "killtoy"?

Yeah, it's killJoy. :)


who is or what is Killjoy? of course I understand the meaning of KILL and JOY but still I don't understand if the song refers to him... or maybe he is some finnish elf

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Has Clevermind same meaning as clever mind or is it something different?


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Killjoy is a derogatory term meaning someone or something that kills joy, as in, "Man, this rain is really a killjoy." Y'know. A mood-killer.

Clevermind is just a clever name for the song, methinks.

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should it not be "killjoy" in MORE, not "killtoy"?

Yeah, it's killJoy. :)


who is or what is Killjoy? of course I understand the meaning of KILL and JOY but still I don't understand if the song refers to him... or maybe he is some finnish elf


Heh, a killjoy is someone who spoils the fun for everybody else. :wink:

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I believe the last word in WDWDTL is "life".
Also, am I imagining it or does he sometimes sing "When we draw the line"?

Great job on the lyrics! Thank you for the efforts.

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Clevermind is just a clever name for the song, methinks.

Hmm and what it means in lyrics? I translating it to czech language but i don't know how translate this word... :?


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Thank you all for the lyrics!

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The only thing I can't understand is that last word in WDWDTL

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I believe the last word in WDWDTL is "life"


I think that Marko sings "life" too.

And, yeah, about "clevermind" - this word is really tough to translate and understand. I translated the line "So never mind your clever mind never mind me" like "So don't stuff your head don't worry about me". Is this kinda right or?..

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I believe the last word in WDWDTL is "life".

Think about the name of the song.. could it be some other, similar word? :)

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I believe the last word in WDWDTL is "life".

Think about the name of the song.. could it be some other, similar word? :)


well, if you put it that way it must be line :)

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I knew it was "line". Should have posted it earlier! :P


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Oh and another thing it's my choice if I did download it not yours. Just because you didn't doesn't make you a god like your acting like. So oh wow im going to hell because I did. lol whatever


Maybe you are, maybe you're not, the point is that, I dunno, admitting so openly to downloading PotF album illegaly on the official PotF forum may not be the smartest thing to do... Your own judgement aside, that's not something you should expect the band to be thrilled about.


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By the way, CanadianPoetsLover, there's an edit button on the right, you may click on it just once :?


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[quote="squee"][quote="CanadianPoetsLover"]
Oh and another thing it's my choice if I did download it not yours. Just because you didn't doesn't make you a god like your acting like. So oh wow im going to hell because I did. lol whatever[/quote]

Maybe you are, maybe you're not, the point is that, I dunno, admitting so openly to downloading PotF album illegaly on the official PotF forum may not be the smartest thing to do... Your own judgement aside, that's not something you should expect the band to be thrilled about.[/quote]

LOL ok then well along with the other ppl who said theyve downloaded it I don't see how im differen't from them well im sorry but if I never downloaded songs from them in the first place I wouldn't have liked or known them and secondly it does not mean I wasn't going to buy the album if I didn't listen to there music in the first place I would not of known or liked them.


Well I can definatley see when someone is not wanted on a forum even for writing there own opinion if I wanted to be yelled at and have ppl act like I was an idiot I can go somewhere else for that. So in that case I am not even going to post anymore I only came to talk about poets sorry if you all got disturbed by what I said I won't say anymore.


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Well no one has said we can't talk about POTF, that's what we do all day long here practically :) And everyone may have their own opinions. But a little piece of advice is that most of the forumers are highly partial (me included) and going on here expecting to be embraced with open arms when saying you downloaded the music... that's just not a bright idea, it doesn't really matter how die-hard-fan you are, it's a thing you might not want to be completely open with in a forum full of POTF lovers :P

Also, you say you came to talk about POTF, so why not drop the download discussion and let's start talking about the music? Cause then I'll really get ready to talk. :roll:

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[quote="beccali"]Well no one has said we can't talk about POTF, that's what we do all day long here practically :) And everyone may have their own opinions. But a little piece of advice is that most of the forumers are highly partial (me included) and going on here expecting to be embraced with open arms when saying you downloaded the music... that's just not a bright idea, it doesn't really matter how die-hard-fan you are, it's a thing you might not want to be completely open with in a forum full of POTF lovers :P

Also, you say you came to talk about POTF, so why not drop the download discussion and let's start talking about the music? Cause then I'll really get ready to talk. :roll:[/quote]

sure I was talking about the lyrics.


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Lyrics have been put on the Polish PotF fansite:
http://www.poetsofthefall.pl/?dzial=118

I recon they're a lil' bit more accurate than what RoboBrouk posted (though I appreciate his work nonetheless).


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[quote="squee"]Lyrics have been put on the Polish PotF fansite:
http://www.poetsofthefall.pl/?dzial=118

I recon they're a lil' bit more accurate than what RoboBrouk posted (though I appreciate his work nonetheless).[/quote]

thank you


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Don't you think that the lyrics of TUF should be added here too? I guess, everyone knows it already, but, anyway, this song is still a part of the new album. So, do you think you could add the lyrics just to have a complete set here:)

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yeah, TUF is still an amazing song and it rocks even more hearing it along with its mates :wink: :oops: that's a good idea me thinks :P

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If you download their album, I don't think you are a true fan.
I had to wait my album too, but I standed it because I knew what's the price;
I can listen their amazing music as much as I want after that. I'm not that rich either, that's why I was saving money for their album from Christmas.
I would do everything for Poets Of The Fall!

And even after what POTF_Admin said, I can't believe how anybody could download their album. Little respect to them, they deserve it!

Don't come here to complain that "When they come here in my country?",
if you have download their album!

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RoboBrouk wrote:
so why do we keep up this charade

give up?

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Omg I love the new music by them. Orgasmic :D haha

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I dont want to add to this abomination of off-topicness
but when you purchase an album/song/movie whatever, you don't own it, you buy a license for it, and sometimes depending on the situation some bonus stuff or whatever. but mostly, you pay for a license for personal use

so if you paid for RR and havn't got it yet, why not download it....
sure there are a lot of complications like what constitutes a license or how do we know you have one etc. plus many local laws you may have in your country for piracy

However, how is paying for something on iTunes and then downloading it any different from paying for it from a shop - or other online store, not getting what you paid for right away and THEN downloading it, a shop is just a more direct 'download' if you know what i mean... i know there are other laws for that in many countries as well but its just a licensing thing, like if you pay for a movie online, and download it, and after however many views it deletes itself or whatever, thats just a license, its cheaper because you dont have it forever.

and i know there are other issues with that, like software etc. you have to draw a line somewhere, im just saying that each side does have a valid point and it really reflects your opinion and local laws within countries
ive probably sounded like im pro-download, but its just my opinion doesn't mean i have, i just think you could argue it...

also i don't think downloading with an intention to purchase is right, you cant say 'well i was going too' it just doesn't cut it!

and let us never speak of it again!


in other news
This new album is sweet, i really like it! i can just listen to it over and over and over and over!


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