I heard the new album. What can i say? I red about people who see Revolution Roulette as the best album of Poets of the Fall. No,men. It can't be true. In my opinion no.
First of all i want to say that RR can be heard quietly,even if the style is changed. You can check this from the first song. And that's the point. It's a ballsy album,RR. Signs Of life is simple and direct,while Carnival of Rust is the consecration of Poets. This album is different,the songs start in a way and get to the end in another one. Some pieces of songs are brilliant,really men. But in general the level isn't too much high.
I consider this album as a project,i want to believe this. Because i could think that poets are changing,are looking for something closer to the people in general,something more commercial. In a few words this album seems to have too much noise for nothing. Please don't make this mistake,poets,you khow that your style is that one of SOL and COR,you khow because at the end of RR there's "Where do we draw the line",that it's fantastic. But were fantastic also songs as lift,overboar,seek you out,sleep,all! (Faster and not) So,back again to be my poets.
And sorry for my english,from italy (when do you come here?). Andrea.

That needs no new topic why didn't you post that to the Revolution Roulette topic, where it belongs?

It's about Poets,and what they are beginning.

When POTF released CoR I have this opinion too. But I changed it. You must listen CD again, again and again and when you know it, you can critic it. When I first time listen RR, I think, that this is bad CD, but now I think, that this is as good as CoR and SoL.

You should probably discuss this with our good friend Hardik. When you come to a conclusion, let me know.

Sorry, I can't do anything else... Just laughing out soo loud.

haha me too

Sorry,but what do you mean?
Do you khow that i don't khow Hardik? You have to forgive me. Please,tell me more.

Sorry, just a little joke. Mr. Hardik's strict opinion is that Poets should stop making soft songs like Sleep and WDWDTL since they make the albums worse, and play only pure rock with loud distorted guitars.

Got it. That's ok,just a thing: i like much songs like Lift,Locking up the sun and the other songs that aren't so soft. So,i don't khow who is this Mr. Hardik,but poets have to leave him alone! That's all IMHO Serious,i'm not joking,they should not consider his opinion.

Should I point out that this line implies how they should treat your opinion about their songs then?

Haha Marv

It's important that they do what they want.

Maybe was time to change something,as this album does.

I'm just saying that i prefer SOL and COR. I like RR too,but..there's a but.

RR isn't better or worse... is different. I think it's the opposite of SOL. In 2004 their stile was simple: great voice, guitar solos and good lyrics. This album seem to be more "complete", maybe we have lost some solos but it's still a fantastic work.

I understand that many people just expected another SOL... the only advice I can give you is keep listening... you'll be surprised

I think SoL is very very different cause there is (in SoL) more melancholy.

See the old Tour Dates from 2005 for example. The guys had like 3 gigs, as Poets of the Fall, before the album release of Signs of Life. I guess all of them had their own experiences of being on stage or being in the eyes of public before. A lot of things have changed from that point on, they grew together and all their ways somehow went in the same direction. - They knew what they wanted. SoL was like a shallow scanning of a new life for the 3 of them. With CoR that had much more background, self-confidence and resources to top SoL for 200%. And now with RR they just blow our heads off. Sure each single album is unique, but that's what real music and understanding is all about.

Exactly!

IMO, Revolution Roulette is the true meaning behind the name of Poets of the Fall: Poets: "soft", "melodic" Fall: "hard", "grinding" It is the Revolution! It is the sound Marko and Ollie sought after in the beginning.

Mm, I'm very glad that there are people who think about RR the same way as I do.

Sorry guys and girls, but these people which cries around "where are my Poets?", can't hear it. The Poets make their own music and we haven't the right to dictate them how to sound or not to sound. It's their work and if somebody don't like it, so leave or hear songs of an another band, that's it.

Sometimes I think, people need it so much to put other people in drawers or corners and wish them to be how they should be. But that's exactly the point which is themed in Clevermind ("you've been going out of way to agree like you've been rubbing yourself all wrong just to be somebpdy elses genie") and Revolution Roulette ("everybody loves the perfect solution to beat the odds against the poorest possible substitution what you see is never what you're goona get everybody's playing revolution roulette"). Some people didn't understand what indie means: make your own thing, don't create music for commercial sections, but for thinking people, not for markets.

Btw: If nothing wouldn't have changed, same people would criticise that everything is the same as before.

There's a good aphorism that Marko said: "Know yourself before the world is telling you who you should be."

But you should not forget that also those who are disapointed have the right to say it out loud.
I don't agree with everything they say either but i think it is not bad if they tell what they think.

Maybe it brings about something good in the end. =)

SAREK, your right, but in this point, they should speak for themselfes and not for everybody like "RR isn't good like.. eat it as an universal truth". Think you know what I mean. A little reverance wouldn't damage.

in my opinion SAREK is right... I love the album and I wrote it everywhere. But if someone doesn't like it probably has the right to say it. And you should consider that not everyone speaks english very well here (and I probably am one of them ) so it can be difficult for someone to "speak for himself".

I wrote it when the TUF single came out, and I repeat it here: this album is better than a week of sex with Jessica Alba

I don't even know who Jessica Alba is, but what I do know is that the album is better!

Well,since RR is released ppl are always talking about "Downloading" and "Comparison"(It's best,It's better,It's more rock,....) the only thing i got is that everyone has his/her music taste on each album,while i think "Clevermind" is the best on RR somebody doesn't like it and likes "Fragile" song
If we go on like this then each album should have at least 24 (or 35 after RR's release )different songs for each taste...so,what will that be?

Personally for me COR was best so far,i know so many peoples here that liked SOL more than COR.These are our opinions and we shouldn't want others to like them...So,the last sentence is that "Poets do simply what they want ,not for you specific person"
Sorry for the huge post

While I realise that pandering the masses is what ultimately makes a band 'sell outs' by most standards, and while I do not think we have any right to dictate what they create, it would be utterly foolish of them to ignore the comments, criticism, and praise given by their fan-base. If they were ignorant in that way, it would be just as bad as if they pandered. If they didn't appreciate what people like and try to develop it, while also creating it from their individual talents, then they would run the risk of not only losing established fans, but also building a reputation for not caring about what their fan-base thinks of their music.

If the entire fan-base were to say, "No more of that thrashy electric guitar stuff, focus on the more acoustic sound of SoL", and they completely ignored that, what do you think would happen with the fan-base? There's nothing wrong with experimenting, or trying something new, but it's important to note how people react when you consider further developments that could potentially continue down the line you have taken. You could be choosing the wrong line in the long-term.

Myself, I prefer the SoL feel a little less than the CoR feel, but both rank higher than RR. My favourite songs are the more melancholy ones like WDWDTL and All The Way / 4U.

Each album for Poets of the Fall is a different part of a spectrum. Each album is great in its own way. What is most impressive is how they manage to make every song flawless and unique. Their songwriting abilities and range in performance are amazing.

I think you need to read posts more carefully. Here are the answers:


And what is this "they"? This is forum for PotF fans, so this division is strange.

Thank you. I repeat that all i said it's in my opinion. I said also that the most important thing is that they must do what they want. That''s really important.
Because i am a fan,and i loved poets of the fall so far,i'm just telling you that RR is good,but not so good as the others. I khow here are people who prefer this one. But i repet that i liked a lot of songs as lift,fire,etc.,those ones not so soft. i'm just saying there's too much noise in this new album,even if some parts are brilliant (i repet!). That's all,in my opinion. I believe there's no matter if i say this. Don't try to make me say things i never told you,please. That's my idea,my truth. You can trust me,i still like potf. But if they follow my idea i'll be very happy. They could do,they could change their position and continue whit this new style. Let me ask you just a thing: is better revolution roulette or SOL and COR? i think i'm not the one who consider the first two album better,i khow people who love potf for songs like all the way4u,daws,sleep,etc.( i have a lot of friends who agree with me,we enjoy to play sleep at the piano,with my brother singing,but we also played overboard in a little concert). I like all done by poets. I'm just saying i would listen something closer the first two album,as my parents want,for exemple.

Again,it's important that they do what they want,but that's my opinon,and i'll be pleased if poets think about it.

All the best!

Sorry for being a bit rude, but can't like it if persons are thinking the own statement stands objective for the whole fanbase. It's your opinion and I'll try to respect it. At first, I don't think you can compare the albums with each other, 'cause SoL got an other style than CoR and RR is very different from both, CoR, and SoL. I'm a great fan of Seek You Out, a soft and melodic song with strong guitar playing (Olli, well done!), I also like Carnival of Rust, with it's deep emotional meaning but as an indie rocker by myself, I also felt in love with RR, a real rock album with heart touching songs, too (Clevermind, Fragile, WDWDTL...).

Music is such a big sphere, so I'm not a big fan of comparing songs (I don't like comparisons at all, because every moment and situation, especially person, is individual). Only one massage at the end: If you don't like the new style, go on and create your own stuff. Believe in you and it will be reality. We should use our creative potential when we've got a vision of how it should be. And hope you're not angry 'bout me, just a little dispute.

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