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Forum: Poets of the Fall Topic: Meaning of carnival of rust video? |
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Posted: 29 Nov 2011, 01:56
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Forum: Poets of the Fall Topic: Meaning of carnival of rust video? |
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Posted: 18 Aug 2011, 06:57
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| Hi, Pooyan, Thanks for the shout out! It's really nice to know someone is reading about POTF and the COR video especially. Not long after that last series of posts I reconnected with Stobe Harju, the director of the video. I was wondering, based on something a student asked me, if the setting was at... |
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Forum: Poets of the Fall Topic: Meaning of carnival of rust video? |
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Posted: 13 May 2011, 06:41
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| Actually, Ben, your thesis is kind of growing on me. There is certainly a ring of finality and death about the imagery. Your interpretation has an appealing darkness. |
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Forum: Poets of the Fall Topic: Meaning of carnival of rust video? |
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Posted: 13 May 2011, 06:33
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| The woman in the video is not old; on the contrary, she is very young, seemingly barely out of childhood--hence the point shoes, the lollipop, and the doll. I actually use the video in my classroom (I am teaching it tomorrow, as a matter of fact) in conjunction with Romeo and Juliet--but the world s... |
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Forum: Poets of the Fall Topic: Meaning of carnival of rust video? |
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Posted: 12 May 2011, 01:44
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| I don't disagree with your open-ended comment, Ben. You're absolutely correct that we can't know everything--but there are warranted and unwarranted conclusions. We can, however, know more about it, and contributors to this forum have been my teachers. Your hypothesis about the old woman (perhaps M... |
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Forum: Poets of the Fall Topic: Meaning of carnival of rust video? |
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Posted: 10 May 2011, 23:10
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| You scoff at analysis? How condescending. |
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Forum: Poets of the Fall Topic: Meaning of carnival of rust video? |
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Posted: 04 May 2011, 05:44
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Wow. Excellent tarot reading. We had one a couple of years back, but this one was more advanced. Thanks, Maydaycall!  |
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Forum: Poets of the Fall Topic: Meaning of carnival of rust video? |
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Posted: 02 May 2011, 06:13
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| Where are you from, Wreet? pretty good analysis, and you did it in English. Watch it again. And again. You might see some differences. |
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Forum: Poets of the Fall Topic: Meaning of carnival of rust video? |
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Posted: 05 Apr 2011, 22:21
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Aw, thanks, Dance!  Had a little help from Shakespeare as well! |
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Forum: Poets of the Fall Topic: Meaning of carnival of rust video? |
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Posted: 05 Apr 2011, 19:37
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| Poetry needs to be about what's important to us, and there's nothing more important to most humans than sex and power (as represented by material possessions). Humans define ourselves through the mirror of the other (the lover, the enemy). William Blake wrote in The Proverbs of Hell "Eternity ... |
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Forum: Poets of the Fall Topic: Meaning of carnival of rust video? |
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Posted: 05 Apr 2011, 04:38
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| I believe the reference to "your savior" is meant to ironically conflate both Jesus (the savior who usually gets prayed to) and the girl's unidentified lover (which is the more important part of this context). Remember, he's addressing her (I don't believe he's talking to himself), so he ... |
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Forum: Poets of the Fall Topic: Meaning of carnival of rust video? |
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Posted: 04 Apr 2011, 04:02
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| Yep, that's completely true. I would guess I'm more than double the age of your average forum poster here, old enough to feel the creeping effects of age. But life is still pretty great. I count myself lucky to have more time left. |
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Forum: Poets of the Fall Topic: Meaning of carnival of rust video? |
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Posted: 20 Feb 2011, 07:39
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| Snow, you know I didn't mean YOU! :oops: Maybe they would like some educated, urbane Americans in Finland. I agree with you--any country that could produce the Poets has got to be a pretty great place. Hemingway is far from my favorite as well. I actually liked The Sun Also Rises, but if I never re... |
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Forum: Poets of the Fall Topic: Meaning of carnival of rust video? |
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Posted: 19 Feb 2011, 22:07
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| Hi, Snow! Great to see you on this thread! It's been a while! What I got from Pinned Moth's statement was that "the grass is always greener." I have often looked across the ocean and thought "how great to expatriate to Italy," but look at how things are going there now. Look at ... |
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Forum: Poets of the Fall Topic: Meaning of carnival of rust video? |
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Posted: 19 Feb 2011, 18:50
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| Well said in its entirety! I agree with every point you made! |
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Forum: Poets of the Fall Topic: Meaning of carnival of rust video? |
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Posted: 16 Feb 2011, 03:29
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| I completely agree about the cloak and dagger interpretation as well. I guess I was just lucky in getting on. It's a really great community of like minded (and for the most part insightful) individuals. I don't know if it's because almost everybody is European (I'm also in the US as I mentioned in ... |
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Forum: Poets of the Fall Topic: Meaning of carnival of rust video? |
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Posted: 14 Feb 2011, 05:14
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| Bullfighters use a red cape and swords (technically not foils, but let's allow the lyricist some license--foils were originally whip-like and razor sharp, not the toys they use in fencing today). The matador is the one with the cape; the picadors carry the swords. A bullfight is supposed to end wit... |
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Forum: Poets of the Fall Topic: Meaning of carnival of rust video? |
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Posted: 13 Feb 2011, 21:36
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| Excellent analysis, pinned moth! I think the reference to "red cape and foil" is most likely an allusion to bullfighting (I had never gotten around to mentioning that one although I thought it plenty of times) I also read the savior not only as a reference to traditional religion but also... |
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Forum: Poets of the Fall Topic: Meaning of carnival of rust video? |
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Posted: 05 Feb 2011, 00:10
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| Beautiful I never drew a connection between "breathing" and the gas mask, but it seems so obvious. |
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Forum: Poets of the Fall Topic: Meaning of carnival of rust video? |
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Posted: 23 Nov 2010, 05:42
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| Wow! wonder why all the action here suddenly? this is great! Both of you make really great points! Pangoblob, your description is outstanding. And Rimnmoy, I like your observation about the mask. |
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Forum: Poets of the Fall Topic: Poets in NY?????? |
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Posted: 01 Sep 2010, 05:42
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| I agree with Sascha. I would like to see them in concert, but I don't really want to hang out. The music is enough. But I wouldn't mind meeting them and thanking them in person. If they could get US airtime, they would be HUGE!!!! |
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Forum: Poets of the Fall Topic: Poets in NY?????? |
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Posted: 30 Aug 2010, 01:03
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| Thanks. I nearly freaked out when I saw the tweet and then I saw they are on vacation through August. Wonder who's in town? Maybe they'll like it enough to do a couple of gigs here. I think they'd do well in NYC, especially now that they're in AW. |
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Forum: Poets of the Fall Topic: Poets in NY?????? |
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Posted: 29 Aug 2010, 21:58
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| I haven't seen anything about the Poets being in NYC and then I see their tweet from 8/27. Please tell me they didn't perform and I missed it!!!! And today is my birthday! They were 40 miles from me? Are they still here? Any official appearances????? Why don't I know about this? |
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Forum: Poets of the Fall Topic: Meaning of carnival of rust video? |
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Posted: 29 Aug 2010, 19:24
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| Good call, Lisa. Queensryche is (was--they were an 80s band) clearly reaching for Poets territory. I wonder if Stobe was familiar with it? |
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Forum: Poets of the Fall Topic: Meaning of carnival of rust video? |
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Posted: 24 Feb 2010, 01:24
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| I don't think too many videos have generated this level of analysis. The Poets and Stobe are brilliant. Still my favorite band of all time! |
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Forum: Poets of the Fall Topic: Meaning of carnival of rust video? |
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Posted: 14 Feb 2010, 23:21
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| Beautiful and thorough reading, Firstlaw! Stick with the Poets, they will reward your heart and soul! |
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Forum: Poets of the Fall Topic: Your place to thank POTF |
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Posted: 13 Feb 2010, 22:44
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| As always, I appreciate Marko's amazing voice and lyrics, Olli's amazing guitar work, and Captain's flawless production skills. I hope you guys get the success your hard work and artistry have earned. Tour stop in New York!!!! If you make it to the Northeast, I will be there!!! |
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Forum: Poets of the Fall Topic: Meaning of carnival of rust video? |
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Posted: 05 Jan 2010, 02:33
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| It's amazing what you can find when you know where to look. I hadn't read Wordsworth's Intimations for years. I'm not sure it's an intended allusion, but it is certainly a valid allusion nonetheless. I believe that the most basic interpretation is that the character is reaching out to his beloved on... |
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Forum: Entertainment & Culture Topic: What are you currently listening to? |
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Posted: 17 Dec 2009, 04:33
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While I am waiting for the new album (or the first single) I have been listening to
1. Wicked Game by Chris Isaak (almost nonstop)
2. It's Been a While by Staind
3. Drive by Incubus |
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Forum: Poets of the Fall Topic: Meaning of carnival of rust video? |
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Posted: 14 Nov 2009, 21:28
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| Beccali wrote: Although it might be off-topic - you really think the moths in Lift stands for bands going with commercial labels? It's an interpretation that feels a little strange to me, no offence. To me the moths are ourselves fighting for true freedom, but only a few reaching it. Since I have th... |
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